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RichardT
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Quote RichardT Replybullet Posted: 09áNová2010 at 4:25pm
> I've never heard of a herbal treatment for Barrett's - though I've heard
> many claims for herbal treatments of reflux.

To be honest, I'm not quite sure whether herbalist will go. I'm not even sure that Barrett's is top of my list. About 15 years ago I was using the 'puter extensively to design a circuit board. Ever since, I have been unable to do long stretches on keyboard or mouse without my hands aching badly. If that is curable that is my first priority. Conventional <strike>wisdom</strike> medicine cannot even find a problem!

Yes, I'm interested to learn what hope there is for Barrett's too. Lots of other potential cures - at 67 age starts to take its toll! Lots written up in my www site, not just Barrett's related.
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Quote jcombs99 Replybullet Posted: 09áNová2010 at 4:51pm
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   35 years ago I use to use a metal hammer 8 hrs a day driveing nails in to wood.. When my hand wouldn't work I would slam it agaisnt a wood wall which would straight it out .Now I use   www.jointjuice.com works just as well hand works great..

Keep an open mind

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Quote RichardT Replybullet Posted: 09áNová2010 at 5:12pm
> www.jointjuice.com

Glucosamine and Chondroitin - readily available as capsules. Yes, tried them for my knees. I found them less efficacious than plain cod liver oil.

Neither have any effect on my hands. That problem doesn't appear to be joint related!

But joint problems are way off-topic for this forum.

Edited by RichardT - 09áNová2010 at 5:14pm
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Quote Suzy Replybullet Posted: 10áNová2010 at 10:36pm
Thanks for the replies everyone.

Richard, sorry, no magic cure, I think I just got lucky. I've never smoked, drank very little before being diagnosed and wasn't over weight so apart from diet and sleeping bolt upright there wasn't much to alter, although I have dramatically altered what I eat, or don't eat is more to the point. I have difficulty with liquids so only drink water as you have to drink something! Red meat, dairy, fat, and as much salt and sugar as possible are off the menu too.

When I was first diagnosed I had what they referred to as
"areas of Barrett's" as opposed to a column which appears to be the norm. It could be that they were newly formed Barrett's cells and therefore easier to reverse the process and repair themselves. I really don't know.

HOWEVER...having said all that, for years I have taken a daily dose of a particular health drink and on finding out I had Barrett's I tripled the dose and sometimes quadrupled it. I have absolutely no way of knowing whether this had any part to play in healing my Barrett's cells. I hesitate to say what I take as I have a vested interest in the product and it is important for people to know what they are taking so I would then want to give advice on what you should be buying and that is not appropriate on this site. If people are interested I would be prepared do a separate post telling you what to look for so you could make an informed choice, although I must stress there is no way of telling if this product had any part to play in healing my Barrett's. The medics will tell you it didn't and I certainly wouldn't want to raise anyone's hopes.

Chris, yes I'm still on the lansoprazole but it doesn't feel like non/low acid reflux to me. I have more chest pain now than ever! I've said it before, I think lansoprazole actually gives me heartburn. I really don't understand sometimes what is going on!!

Sarcasmo, interesting videos. Thank you. Has anyone tried the drinking water/jumping technique? Are they serious?! Did it work?

All the best to everyone

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Quote RichardT Replybullet Posted: 11áNová2010 at 8:40am
> Richard, sorry, no magic cure, I think I just got lucky.

The oesophagus (along with other parts of the alimentary canal) is
constantly being eroded and new cels regenerate. I guess 'cure' is
down to creating a digestve environment that encourages normal cells
and discourages Barrett's. Clearly a small area is going to be much
easier than a long segment.

Actually, I am not too concerned about 'curing' the Barrett's. Cancer
is in part genetic - I have no cancer in my family tree - and part
diet/lifestyle related. But I am interested in finding out all I can!

> I've never smoked, drank very little before being diagnosed and
> wasn't over weight so apart from diet and sleeping bolt upright
> there wasn't much to alter, although I have dramatically altered
> what I eat, or don't eat is more to the point. I have difficulty
> with liquids so only drink water as you have to drink something!
> Red meat, dairy, fat, and as much salt and sugar as possible are
> off the menu too.

Some would say a boring life, but diet is very much what my wife
and I would eat if our children weren't so fussy.


> HOWEVER...having said all that, for years I have taken a daily dose
> of a particular health drink and on finding out I had Barrett's I
> tripled the dose and sometimes quadrupled it.

Most pharmaceuticals are derived from herbal originals. I have no
doubt that the right herbals can be more useful than totally
artificial drugs such as the PPIs. What I don't have is the
knowledge.

> Chris, yes I'm still on the lansoprazole but it doesn't feel like
> non/low acid reflux to me. I have more chest pain now than ever!
> I've said it before, I think lansoprazole actually gives me
> heartburn. I really don't understand sometimes what is going on!!

Controlling acidity with diet is apparently easy.

The National Institute of Medical Herbalists site has a search
facility to find one near you.
http://www.nimh.org.uk/find_herbalist

It's a route I'm taking, to see where it leads. More information on
my body and my options cannot do me any harm. From my experience of
PPIs, I am loath to make the same claim about them.
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Quote jcombs99 Replybullet Posted: 11áNová2010 at 4:25pm
Suzy or anyone

    Everyone be real careful what you THINK about different so called treatments . I had 60% hearing, 5 treatments(needles) later (5months) I was tested by my hearing Doctor . She said what did you do (20% better) . I said nothing , about 2 months later it went back to where it was. It was NICE liveing without a hearing aid..

OPEN MINDED JEFF

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Quote RodrigoR Replybullet Posted: 19áNová2010 at 1:26am
Dear Suzy.....Chris, Jeff, and others, hi
I am very happy about your cure...Just like you, I had small segments of Barretts that were healed a few months ago. The columnar intestinal cells turned into stomach cells, so technically, there┤s no Barrets anymore.  My "magic cure" was: 40 mg of Nexium per day, 15 Kg lost, alcohol cut-off, what means disabling the triggers that causes acidity. My doctor says that, despite of the healing not being the goal of Barrett┤s treatment, the reversion is possible, and more usual than we can think.  
All the best for you all.
 
Rodrigo


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Quote mrstella Replybullet Posted: 19áNová2010 at 8:06am
Isnt the case that most of the time when Barretts has been "healed" its just the normal cells growing over the top of the Barretts and as such the Barretts is still there but no longer being watched ?
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Quote jcombs99 Replybullet Posted: 19áNová2010 at 1:46pm
They don't know that yet to be true or false . That's why you want the same doctor doing the scopes. Because he will MAP out where it was and will take biopies of that spot to see what happening. My doctor does it every 4 months for my LGD and HGD spots .If you look at curebarrets.com it will tell you 5.7% a YEAR change to DYSPLASIA from just barrettes . I'm glad I went for halo because it was HGD not just barretts like the doctor said.

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Quote RichardT Replybullet Posted: 19áNová2010 at 2:35pm
mrstella said:
> Isnt the case that most of the time when Barretts has been "healed"
> its just the normal cells growing over the top of the Barretts and as
> such the Barretts is still there but no longer being watched ?

Skin cells in general (and the lining of the oesophagus is skin)
wear off at the surface and are replaced by new cells from underneath.

The mouth and oesophagus have a very high wear rate, so replacement rate is also high.

HALO treatment is, in effect, simply wearing off the surface. Anyone
fancy swallowing sandpaper? Might do the job!

Edited by RichardT - 19áNová2010 at 4:12pm
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