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    Posted: 01 Sep 2010 at 10:10am
Bon Jour from sunny France. I have retired here and it has been a somewhat stressful time.
After Christmas got some upper abdo pains. Am 67, overweight, have gout and minimal BP (both treated and OK). GP referred to local Gastro-Ent. who after 'scope told me I have a cm Barretts ( they call it here-languette d'endobrachyoesophage!). and a small hiatus hernia. Biopsies-metaplasia only. Take PPI's and I will re-scope in 5 years.
Started on lansaprazole 30mg but after an initial remission, got severe side effects-headache and utter tiredness- felt really ill. So stopped them. Tried a lower dose after a few weeks as symptoms were returning but now got diarrhoea-so you can see why I am highly suspicious of this drug.
GP suggested omeprazole 20mg and hopefully this will help-but too early to tell as yet.
Are the symptoms of being" hit in the solar plexus" type sensations  common, because that is what I get most days. Also belching ++, stomach gurglings ++ and bad breath.  French bread/fruit seems to make it worse unfortunately.
Grateful for any advice. Thanks.
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Quote chrisrob Replybullet Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 7:31pm
Hi Alval,

Great to have you aboard.

Totally familiar with your side effect symptoms.
Has the change of PPI to omeprazole helped?

I love France and nearly moved there myself a few years back. (Probably still would if my wife shared the dream.)

Heard great things of the French health service, are you getting good treatment compared to UK?

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Quote alval Replybullet Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 10:02am
Good morning Chris and thanks for your reply- I thought I'd been abandoned!
 
The change to omeprazole has diminished the side-efects but still a great problem with wind-both ends! Pain is less but not gone. Had reduced the dose to 10mg and then stopped as I am so fed up with the flatulence etc. My gp thinks I must persevere with the PPI's as this will reduce the risk of future problems-I am not really sure what to do as the side-effects of these thingsasre almost intolerable- altho'
not as severe as lansaprazole.
 
I was told to have a further 'scope in 5 years time by the specialist but may have to
consult him further if the problems persist.
 
France is so far so good,  health service-wise and am quite impressed with the experiences I, my wife and a friend have had.
 
However,personally I find there are many downsides to living here and I shall definitely be returning to UK when the markets have settled somewhat.  I miss the food and English beer-you can only take so much salami/wine etc. and Oh! for a piece of decent beef.They persist with shutting everything down from 12 to 2 and now the tourist season is nearly over they all seem to disappear. Everything is now ridiculously expensive and one dreads anything seriously going wrong with one's car for example.
All my expat friends feel the same.
 
The climate here in the Ardeche is very harsh with seriously hot months and exact opposites in the winter (-6 last Jan.) You have to irrigate everything except vines and olives.
 
No- an experience but back to temperate climes for me-if I suvirve the stomach problems!
 
Thanks again for your letter and am glad I found this forum.
 
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Quote chrisrob Replybullet Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 11:25am
Hi again, Alex,

Sorry I didn't respond to your post sooner. It was posted in the general section which is usually for non-Barrett's related chat - which may be why it wasn't noticed.

PPI's do have the embarrasing side effects you mention. Because the acid is suppressed, full digestion may not occur as rapidly causing food to ferment and produce more gas to be expelled somehow.
If they feel 5 years between scopes is sufficient, they must feel you're not at any specific risk of deterioration.

I love the Ardeche. My present wife and I camped in the area for a honeymoon in 2004. It was my favourite area of France before I discovered Aveyron. We nearly bought a house near Requista in 2006 - it was quite remote and we were warned of the winter climate.

I, personally am a wine drinker - though do prefer British beer to the blonde lagers the French prefer. Cycling in France this year, I discovered Biere Brun, which had more flavour (more usually referred to by its manufacturer's name which I'm afraid I don't remember).

All the best

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Quote alval Replybullet Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 2:05pm
If you are ever Ardeching again we are 5 mins from the river - near St Martin d'Ardeche, and we would love to see you both. A.
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Quote jcombs99 Replybullet Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 6:16pm
Aival
   That's a very long time between SCOPES maybe go over this with a doctor BUT a year is the normal in the states . The deal is you don"t want to wakeup having the doctor telling you WHY didn't you come in sooner it is very bad....I'll be in PARIS next Sept.........

HGD JEFF

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Quote alval Replybullet Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 8:00am
Yes -I agree with you thanks -Jeff
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Quote RichardT Replybullet Posted: 23 Oct 2010 at 8:30am
alval wrote

> so you can see why I am highly suspicious of this drug.

> GP suggested omeprazole 20mg and hopefully this will help-but too
> early to tell as yet.

Even a 20mg dose is a huge system overdose level. The drug has an extremely short half-life!

See http://www.Torrens.org.uk/Med/Ome.html for full reasoning.

If I am right (and nobody has faulted me yet) dosages are wrong! It should be prescribed in frequent small doses.

The theory worked for me!


Edited by RichardT - 23 Oct 2010 at 8:31am
www sites and contact:
www.Torrens.org.uk/Med/
www.GreenBottom.org

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Quote alval Replybullet Posted: 23 Oct 2010 at 2:48pm
Interesting.
 
Have been alot better on the OCCASIONAL 10mg dose of omeprazole- certainly no side effects and have been more or less symptom free.
 
What is also interesting is a snippet I picked up from Dr Tom Stuttaford's column in the D.T. where someone had recommended a slice of pineapple on a daily basis as a "remedy" for upper stomach problems.
I have tried it and have definitely been better symptom-wise- but as an arch sceptic will report again in a couple of months.
 
Just the renal colic to deal with now!!
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Quote RichardT Replybullet Posted: 23 Oct 2010 at 4:58pm
> Have been alot better on the OCCASIONAL 10mg dose of omeprazole-
> certainly no side effects and have been more or less symptom free.

I don't understand how the profession cannot put together the
commonly known facts as I've explained them on the www page to arrive at
the same conclusion as have I.

Have you managed to find out how long a 10mg dose lasts you?

> What is also interesting is a snippet I picked up from Dr Tom
> Stuttaford's column in the D.T. where someone had recommended
> a slice of pineapple on a daily basis as a "remedy" for upper
> stomach problems.

Interesting. www.pfaf.org has a huge database of edible and medicinal
plants but they don't mention pineapple. Nor are herbal remedies much
into Barrett's!

> I have tried it and have definitely been better symptom-wise- but
> as an arch sceptic will report again in a couple of months.

I'll watch this space - or contact me via my www site.

Coincidentally I've just taken the dog for a walk and collected a wild
salad for tonight consisting of watercress, common mallow, cleavers,
hedge bedstraw, chickweed, mustard, plantain, charlock. Salads are
healthy. Collecting wild salads is extra healthy. Watercress and
mustard are very tasty - the rest are lettuce substitutes. Cleavers,
plantain, hedge bedstraw are medicinally good and quite acceptable in a
mixed salad. More on this on my www site!
www sites and contact:
www.Torrens.org.uk/Med/
www.GreenBottom.org

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