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MarieDay
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    Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 3:09pm
Hi. I wondered if anyone has tried this. My only risk factor for GERD or BE is a hiatal hernia. Someone recommended visceral manipulation to pull the stomach out of the esophagus. Has anyone had this done? Did it help? Thanks!
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Quote chrisrob Replybullet Posted: 05 Nov 2018 at 9:24am
Your hiatus hernia is the reason your lower oesophageal sphincter is not working properly, permitting reflux that was contributory to your developing Barrett's oesophagus,as described in Down With Acid here.

It is sometimes possible for a chiropractor to manipulate the stomach back down through the hiatus into the abdomen if the hernia's not too big, however, if it can slide that easily, it will easily reherniate. So it's only a temporary fix that will need to be redone again and the more frequently it is redone, the easier it will slide.

Another way to try this yourself without the cost of a chiropractor is to fill your stomach with a quantity of water to make it heavy and jump down heavily from a high step. Gravity can pull the stomach back.
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Quote MarieDay Replybullet Posted: 05 Nov 2018 at 10:50am
Good to know. Last thing I want to do is make the hernia worse. I assume jumping with a full belly would carry the same risk as visceral manipulation by a chiropractor, i.e., making it more likely to slide? Thanks for your answer.
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Quote MarieDay Replybullet Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 10:36pm
Just saw a naturopath who wants to do visceral manipulation, but from what you've written, it sounds more bad than good. Or would you give it a try?
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Quote chrisrob Replybullet Posted: 14 Nov 2018 at 9:49am
On a personal level, I'd save my money but. of course, it's up to you. If she is able to reposition your stomach, be particularly careful with the lifestyle rules (particularly avoiding tight clothing, bending and exercise on a full stomach) afterwards to try and prevent it reherniating.
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Quote MarieDay Replybullet Posted: 16 Nov 2018 at 4:11am
Thanks. Saw my gastro doc today and asked him about it. He had never heard of it, but didn't think it could hurt. I have a fairly large hiatal hernia. I'd love to know if anyone on the forum has had it done.
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Quote roganhen Replybullet Posted: 19 Nov 2018 at 5:08pm
Yes I have this done by my osteopath. Not all osteopaths are visceral manipulators so you have to choose the right one. I learnt about this when my osteopath spotted that my ribs were not moving symmetrically while I was being treated for an unconnected problem. I explained that I had some damage in the diaphragm area caused by a decompression injury and after some painful manipulation she relocated some of the ligaments around the liver. The improvement in my health was significant and today whenever I visit my current osteopath I get him to push the stomach down. This does not cure the hernia but it ensures that the hernia is sliding which is a good thing. The stomach is a very floppy bag and there is always a chance that a bit of it might become trapped so moving it is not a bad idea. As Chrisrob says this happens naturally anyway as the stomach is filled but the hernia will always be there. I have never had any problems from the manipulation and you could give it a try particularly if you are seeing the practitioner anyway. Good luck.
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Quote MarieDay Replybullet Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 12:54am
Thank you for this post. I would love to have my stomach pushed down and have it stay without surgery, but temporary relief would be nice too. How long does your stomach stay down, and do you find you are less symptomatic when it is down?
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Quote roganhen Replybullet Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 4:06pm
Sorry but while I find the procedure is reassuring it is not a cure and I don't find the stomach is relocated. However I do seem to get less gall bladder pain afterwards so a useful procedure for me and doesn't do any harm.

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Quote NickH Replybullet Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 10:24am
Originally posted by MarieDay

Thanks. Saw my gastro doc today and asked him about it. He had never heard of it, but didn't think it could hurt. I have a fairly large hiatal hernia. I'd love to know if anyone on the forum has had it done.


Hi Marie

I've been looking into this too, have you had it done yet?

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